An unofficial blog by and for members and friends of St. Herman of Alaska OCA church in Langley, BC.
It's an Augustinian thing, eh? Hm. The little bit of research I just did shows there's a variety of views on exactly where the word "religion" comes from.According to good old Wikipedia it could come from:re-reading--from Latin re (again) + legio (read), referring to the repetition of scripture.treating carefully--from Latin relegere (Cicero's interpretation)re-connection to the divine--from Latin re (again) + ligare (to connect, as in English ligament). This interpretation is favoured by modern scholars such as Tom Harpur, but probably originated with St. Augustine.to bind or return to bondage--an alternate interpretation of the "reconnection" etymology, possibly also originating with Augustine but emphasising a sense of servitude to God. However, the bondage interpretation, while popular with critics of religion, is often considered imprecise and possibly offensive in many modern religious contexts.concerning a gathering--from Latin ablative res (with regard to) + legere (to gather). More emphatically, religion concerns an organization.What prompted the question?
Nerdissimo....pasivirta, o shoeless one, o open toed one, get out of the city and come to Chilliwack. You're welcome to browse my library... nerd! :-)
Biss,I love you...!
I love you, too, Kai.I am about to telephone your wife concerning the food she makes. Ring ring.
Biss,I'm seriously sitting here giggling!! And I seriously can't stop. How funny!
What? What's so funny? I do love him, and his wife makes a mean moose dish, among everything else she makes.
and they are nerds!
thanks y'all, I appreciate your help.
David, you don't REALLY mean that....! You're just being polite, eh?But, I really have an ancient book (ca. 1952) that has St. Augustin printed on it and on its inside it has several mention of religion... would that help? You know, I really, really want to help you here.SincerelyKai
Nerds you say? You aint seen nothin til you've seen these guys debating the virtues of footnotes vs. endnotes vs. parenthetical references, and whether the Chicago or MLA style of formatting is better.I think they went on for about 40 minutes last thursday.Of course I had nothing to say on the matter. :)
It seems the origin of the word was debated even in antiquity. Cicero (obviously long before Augustine) is frequently cited, as cathedral dweller points out.I think where Augustine comes in is his suggestion that it was related to religare to "bind fast." Note that the word rely also seems to derive from religare.I'm not sure if there is any good reason to take this interpretation over earlier ones (eg. Cicero's), though it has certainly coloured the use of the word since. This is probably what shifted the usage from "respect for the gods, or what is sacred" to "those bound by vows" (ie. monastics). This latter usage of the word "religious" is still common among Roman Catholics, though almost never among Protestants.
I take it as a high honour to be graced with the term "nerd." And for those who resent the monicker "nerd," just think of it as you would olives - it's an acquired taste.
I too do not wince at such a referent, it bestows upon the bearer an air of...something, I know not what.
Thanks, Sir John.
Nerd is a term of endearment! Little nerd, my dear little nerd, my dear is a little nerdy, nerdy is dear to me, etc. Just think what the world would look like would there be no nerds. We would all run around with steam powered cell phones....
THis reminds me of a t-shirt I heard about that said "talk nerdy to me" Tee heeeeee.Never mind 'religion' -- where does the word /nerd/ come from!?Nerd nerdNerd is the word
Mmmm...I like to eat nerds.My word verification says: ggqgyj. It looks funny.
I believe "nerd" was first coined by Dr. Seuss.(ps. for the record, i'm a friend of our dear mr. pasivirta, who directed me to this blog)
Yes, it's true -- wikipedia will back me up.Dr. Seuss' "If I Ran the Zoo", c. 1950http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nerd
Okay, I can’t rest until I have contributed my part to the philology of nerdology. After intense research which took me the major part between breakfast and lunch, I came up with the following derivatives of the word nerd. I don’t think that they are truly etymological in the Cathedral dweller’s or Phil’s sense, but I think they might be helpful for some of our nerds.Nerd: Latin, nerditore, Church Latin, nerditarissime sanctificatoribusMittelhochdeutsch: Depperle, Tollpatscherle, Närdle (early ancient Swiss German, Nerdale or Nerdäderle)Anglo-Saxon, Nerdor, Early middle Hungarian, Nördör’gülLate medium middle Viking, NürderlokiCommon derivatives of the original word-stem:nerdology, the study of nerdsnerdus, common nerdnerdatus, nerd’s datenerditutionare, carrier of a nerditorous auranerditorous, of nerdishness (used to describe the tribal attributes of nerds)Nerditerra, home-country of nerdsNerdipolis, hometown of nerdsNerditerranean, lake behind Nerdipolisstudinerdare, studying nerdy subjectsnerdalecturare, teaching nerdy subjectsobnerdisessity, to obsess about nerdy subjectsnerdy-nervousa, nervous twitch when outed as a nerdcamera nerdtusa, meeting room for nerdscamera obscura nertusa, meeting room for secret (not yet outed) nerdshavernerdasack, small stout bag to carry a nerd’s possessions (like pipes)meganerdabit, a unit of data on a nerd’s computermeganerdusa, mythical gorgon killed by Nerdaseus, lived in NerdopiaNerdopia, mythical netherworld in nerdomythologyPhilonerdophy, love of nerdsPhilanerdelphia, city in USA founded by immigrant nerds in 1834Nerdophia, panic experienced by non-nerds when encountering nerdsPronertheus, semi-god in ancient nerdomythologyPorkynerdus, scrumptuous pork dish from NerditerraSpanerdocopidos, wrapped spinach dish from NerdopolisFamous Nerds:Christofer Colnerdus, discovered NerdistanVasco da Nerda, discovered Cape Nerd and Rio de JanerdoNerdingstone, discovered Sir Henry Morton NerdleyErnest Nerdiway, famous author of depressing booksProf. Dr. Einnerd, physicist, discovered the Theory of NerdativitySaint Nerdius the Unobtrusive, patron saint of nerds (Western Church)Saint Thernerdiophrenios of the Wagon, patron saint of nerds (Eastern Church)Famous Films:The Silence of the NerdsCalinerdulaThe Last NerdNerdiatorChronicles of NerdiaI hope this, my little contribution, to the subject was of help and I promise to never do this again…
Wow, Kai, that's impressive. I hope you realize you're walking a fine line here. After all, "Philology always leads to crime." (Eugène Ionesco, The Lesson (1951))Speaking of philology...Are you coming for my birthday?
Phil, I know, I know...! Philology my 18th love.I would love to come for your Parteeeeee as Biss announced it, but have a prior engagement. But I have it from reliable sources that you will celebrate another one next year same time. THEN, I will come...
Cathedral dweller, is that you Mathew in Ottawa? If yes, would you email me your address? My wife still has the going-away-present for your wife (which Cheryl forgot at St. Herman's)in her (I assume) purse and would like to send it after you...
One addition to my etymology of nerdology sent just now to me by Fr. Wassiljy Wassiljevich Woodstakoff represents and early trace of the stem "nerd" in Church Slavonic. Here it is:Church Slavonic, Да изрд-царсыщ (da nerd-czarswljytsh)
You're coming to Ottawa next January, Kai??? HOORAY!Bring your wife.(For those who don't know yet, my birthday will be celebrated on June 18th. Mark your calandars now.)
ah very well thought out kai...but if you want to impress me you'll have to use this noun in the form of a verb in the ablative case and make it have a haunting mood :)i just giggle thinking of conjugating 'to nerd' in latin, sanskrit or greek. it is right up there with what happened to the English noun 'party' about a decade ago or so. Now even highly intelligent humans don't hesistate to use it as a verb. hehe
Thomas, would that be the middle English form of nerdatus (masculine) and nerdatita (feminine) derived from the Old French stem nerdoisette? There would be another possibility that one could use the noun nerdatus and the concomittant agreeing pronoun "me nerdatus?" as a question. A third possibility would be a relation to the melting or evaporation of the noun nerdatus which would indicate an immanent implonerdion (masc.) or implonerdission (fem).To further investigate this, I would need however, either a live Swedish "njörd" or at least the neutered case of a common nerd confronted with a nerdatus eating a Spananerdacopitos (with spinach removed).Let me know if you have one...
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